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Title: Nominations so far
Post by: Administrator on February 09, 2017, 07:48:43 am
Below are the nominations so far.

Please remember that nominations close on 13 Feb and need to be seconded.  It is assumed that people who have been nominated, but with no position supplied with the nomination, are nominated as moderators. Please correct this if necessary.

Further it is assumed that a person with more than 1 nomination for a position has been seconded.

If there are errors in the list, please advise Ihar in the It Is Time ... thread.


Position - Chair

Ari (Ari bezuidenhout) - nominated by Marius and Andre and Wesley and Muhammed
Peter (kleynhap) - nominated by Ihar and Ari
Remco (SARemco) - nominated by Stephen and Peter
Stephen (ButaSteve) - nominated by Danie

Position Vice Chair

Steve (Ihar) - nominated by Marius and Andre and Muhammed
Ari (Ari bezuidenhout) - nominated by Ihar and Peter
Stephen (ButaSteve) - nominated by Ari
Andre (Andre) - nominated by Stephen and Danie and Wesley and Yusuf and Muhammed

Moderators

Ari (Ari bezuidenhout) - nominated by Marius and Conrad and Remco and Stephen and Danie
Stephen (ButaSteve) - nominated by Marius and Ihar and Peter
Remco (SARemco) - nominated by Conrad and Ihar and Andre and Danie and Muhammed
Yusuf (Yusuf Essa)- nominated by Andre and Ihar and Peter and Muhammed
Andre (Andre)- nominated by Remco and Conrad and Ari and Wesley
Stephan (NO USER)- nominated by Remco (Stephan is unknown on the forum)
Brett (Brett) - nominated by Remco
Steve (Ihar) - nominated by Andre and Stephen and Ari and Danie and Muhammed
Kevin (kevins) - nominated by Andre and Wesley
Conrad (Conrad) - nominated by Peter

As a reminder, nominations close at midnight on 13 February 2016.

Please feel free to make additional nominations in the It is time ... thread. (This list is as at 23:59 on 13 February 2017) 

Will the people nominated, and only the people nominated please accept or decline the nominations below.  You have until midnight on Sat 18 Feb to do so, should you not respond, it will be assumed that you have declined the nomination.  Please also indicate which position you were nominated for that you are declining for accepting.

This topic is no longer locked.

E.G.

Person X; Decline; Chair
Person X; Accept; Moderator.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: kevins on February 14, 2017, 08:38:56 am
Kevin accept
Moderator
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: ButaSteve on February 14, 2017, 09:17:43 am
Stephen decline Position as Chairman / Vice Chairman
Accept Position as Moderator.
Regards
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Yusuf Essa on February 14, 2017, 10:01:22 am
Yusuf Essa accept
Moderator
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Conrad on February 14, 2017, 02:38:52 pm
Conrad; decline; moderator

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Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Ari bezuidenhout on February 14, 2017, 02:55:32 pm
Ari,

Decline - Chair
Accept - Vice Chair
Accept Moderator
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Danie on February 14, 2017, 06:54:12 pm
Okay, since the latest posts I think it became clear in which direction we are heading .
 Just three questions:

1. Are we going to get a chance to vote for nominees who accepted their nominations ? If so, could you please explain the voting process ?

2.  I ussume nominees who do not accept their nominations in public will not qualify to serve as members of Management ?

3. Do nominees who do not own a Lada qualify to serve at Management ?

Thanks !

P.S. The reason for my questions - since we started nominating members we obviously did not know which members would accept their nominations. Therefore I think it would just make sense to cast our votes once it becomes clear who are indeed available for the different positions ?

Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Andre on February 14, 2017, 08:18:19 pm
Andre
Accept vice chairman
Accept moderator

*thank you for the nominations guys*
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Spikes on February 15, 2017, 06:15:20 am
Okay, since the latest posts I think it became clear in which direction we are heading .
 Just three questions:

1. Are we going to get a chance to vote for nominees who accepted their nominations ? If so, could you please explain the voting process ?

2.  I ussume nominees who do not accept their nominations in public will not qualify to serve as members of Management ?

3. Do nominees who do not own a Lada qualify to serve at Management ?

Thanks !

P.S. The reason for my questions - since we started nominating members we obviously did not know which members would accept their nominations. Therefore I think it would just make sense to cast our votes once it becomes clear who are indeed available for the different positions ?

""I propose that:
nominations open on 2 February 2017 and will close on 13 February 2017;
acceptance of nominations takes place from 14 to 18 February 2017;
voting for the positions takes place form 19 to 26 February;
the new management team takes over the running of the club effective 1 March 2017.""

From the original post.

Further discussion in the "its time"  thread concluded that the chairman and vice chairman should own a lada. Moderators were exempt.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Danie on February 15, 2017, 07:47:24 am
Thanks ! Who exactly decided that non-owners should be allowed to serve as moderators ? The outgoing management only ? Dont you guys think that all owners should have an opportunity to vote about this issue ?                                   P.S. I am not trying to be difficult - to my mind the current (outgoing) members of management simply do not have a mandate to make a decision on their own in this regard.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Conrad on February 15, 2017, 09:18:01 am
The only non lada owner who was nominated was me as far as im aware. Since its such a contentious topic, I declined the nomination.

Everyone else that is nominated owns a lada, so are we going to argue in circles about a situation that doesnt even exist, or are we going to constructively build a club that benefits the members?

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Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Danie on February 15, 2017, 11:03:03 am
Conrad, maybe you should read Spike's latest post again. He clearly indicated that non owners will be allowed as moderators. Please dont take this issue personal. The outgoing Management clearly do not have a mandate to accept non owners as part of management, and that's not your fault. And believe me, we are not talking "in circles" here.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: marius on February 15, 2017, 12:39:26 pm
Danie I think you missed the post where it was mentioned that there is no actual "management" at all! Lets not get too technical about who nots and what nots - as long as we get the job done. I am sure that the vast majority of active forum users (not too many these days  :-\) have a vested interest in LOCSA and the Niva.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Spikes on February 15, 2017, 12:42:48 pm
Danie,

The issue was discussed in the "Its time" thread.

Have a look at this link. Input was received from various non present management members   

http://ladanivaza.co.za/index.php?topic=1208.30

It is in line with your original proposal that Executive  members should own a lada
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Danie on February 15, 2017, 02:30:17 pm
Nice footwork Spikes. Its not going to help though. You clearly did not understand me correctly. All moderators are obviously part and parcel of "Management", therefore the sames rules should apply to the "moderators" as well. And of cause, we all came forward with our feeling in this regard - but none of us casted a vote on a very important issue like this. Expressing a view is obviouly very different from casting a vote.Sorry to say, I am not happy about the way this issue has been handled . To my mind this issue as well as the voting process are not been handled correctly. Again, I am not trying to be difficult.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Spikes on February 15, 2017, 03:31:41 pm
Danie

The general definition of moderator and administrator:

Moderators
The moderators (short singular form: "mod") are users (or employees) of the forum who are granted access to the posts and threads of all members for the purpose of moderating discussion (similar to arbitration) and also keeping the forum clean (neutralizing spam and spambots etc.).[12] Moderators also answer users' concerns about the forum, general questions, as well as respond to specific complaints. Common privileges of moderators include: deleting, merging, moving, and splitting of posts and threads, locking, renaming, stickying of threads, banning, suspending, unsuspending, unbanning, warning the members, or adding, editing, removing the polls of threads.[13] "Junior Modding", "Backseat Modding", or "Forum copping" can refer negatively to the behavior of ordinary users who take a moderator-like tone in criticizing other members.

Essentially, it is the duty of the moderator to manage the day-to-day affairs of a forum or board as it applies to the stream of user contributions and interactions. The relative effectiveness of this user management directly impacts the quality of a forum in general, its appeal, and its usefulness as a community of interrelated users.

Administrator
The administrators (short form: "admin") manage the technical details required for running the site. As such, they may promote (and demote) members to/from moderators, manage the rules, create sections and sub-sections, as well as perform any database operations (database backup etc.). Administrators often also act as moderators. Administrators may also make forum-wide announcements, or change the appearance (known as the skin) of a forum. There are also many forums where administrators share their knowledge.[13]

An Internet forum does not normally have positions of chairman and vice chairman. This was extensively discussed on the old proboards forum shortly before the last "hijack".

And yes I probably misunderstood you. I was more concerned about the allegation that the very important topic may have been locked.



Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Danie on February 15, 2017, 06:49:19 pm
Danie

The general definition of moderator and administrator:

Moderators
The moderators (short singular form: "mod") are users (or employees) of the forum who are granted access to the posts and threads of all members for the purpose of moderating discussion (similar to arbitration) and also keeping the forum clean (neutralizing spam and spambots etc.).[12] Moderators also answer users' concerns about the forum, general questions, as well as respond to specific complaints. Common privileges of moderators include: deleting, merging, moving, and splitting of posts and threads, locking, renaming, stickying of threads, banning, suspending, unsuspending, unbanning, warning the members, or adding, editing, removing the polls of threads.[13] "Junior Modding", "Backseat Modding", or "Forum copping" can refer negatively to the behavior of ordinary users who take a moderator-like tone in criticizing other members.

Essentially, it is the duty of the moderator to manage the day-to-day affairs of a forum or board as it applies to the stream of user contributions and interactions. The relative effectiveness of this user management directly impacts the quality of a forum in general, its appeal, and its usefulness as a community of interrelated users.

Administrator
The administrators (short form: "admin") manage the technical details required for running the site. As such, they may promote (and demote) members to/from moderators, manage the rules, create sections and sub-sections, as well as perform any database operations (database backup etc.). Administrators often also act as moderators. Administrators may also make forum-wide announcements, or change the appearance (known as the skin) of a forum. There are also many forums where administrators share their knowledge.[13]

An Internet forum does not normally have positions of chairman and vice chairman. This was extensively discussed on the old proboards forum shortly before the last "hijack".

And yes I probably misunderstood you. I was more concerned about the allegation that the very important topic may have been locked.


Wow Spikes, your comments are indeed a real "eye opener" to me.

I'm sorry, (without being "difficult") - I simply do not except your "definition" regarding the responsibility of " Locsa Management", ( apparently according to our Current Chairperson, as well as the Vice Chairperson's "definition"). 
With respect, I NEVER realized that the current Chairperson, as well as Vice Chairperson do NOT regard the Moderators at Locsa as part of Management ! And I NEVER realized that the current Chairperson and Vice Chairperson reserve themselves the right to make decisions in this regard - WITHOUT HAVING A CLEAR MANDATE from Locsa members !

Let me put it this way - this is simply too painful.  I'm done, and do not want to take part in this "elections" any longer.

PLEASE ignore my earlier nominations. At the time  I came forward with the names I nominated, I NEVER realized that the Moderators I nominated will NOT be part of "Management" ! So PLEASE, I NEVER INTENDED to give my nominated Chairperson, as well as Vice Chairperson a "free hand" to act on my behalf !

I will start deleting all photos forwarded by myself to this Forum this evening.
 Sorry guys, I simply can not see myself being part of this any longer.






 
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: ronnie on February 15, 2017, 07:35:35 pm
Hi Guys, I am sitting here very far away from SA, and can only say things appear to be getting far too complicated to understand. As far as I am concerned a moderator who does not own a Niva at this time is irrelevant as they must have extensive knowledge of the vehicle or they would be very wrong to accept a nomination. Make things simple so that I and others can resume reading all the interesting things I read on LOCSA. I may be very far from SA but I still log on every day.

Regards to all

Ronnie
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: marius on February 15, 2017, 09:15:04 pm
Sounds like a vinyl record that keeps getting stuck on exactly the same spot EVERY SINGLE TIME no matter how many times you play it  :-[
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Spikes on February 16, 2017, 05:57:48 am

I will start deleting all photos forwarded by myself to this Forum this evening.
 Sorry guys, I simply can not see myself being part of this any longer.

Danie please reconsider before deleting any pictures from the forum.

I have requested the administrator to remove me from the moderators group with immediate effect.

Spikes
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Ihar on February 16, 2017, 06:29:10 am
Danie, there is no official current chair and vice chair, that is why there are elections on the go.  The new management structure, consisting of the executive positions will be in a position to define who things work going forward, obviously with input from the moderators and members.

The forum has been run by willing individuals who wanted to see a collaborative capability of all our lada knowledge and love for ladas not being lost after the last time the forum was hi jacked.  Time has now come to formalise the structure, again and let club go forward under guidance.

The agreement reached on the nominations thread is as has been discussed here, and is irrelevant anyway, as all the people who have accepted their nominations so far do in fact own a Lada.  The same is true for all the people who have yet to accept their nominations.  Thus your "requirement" of all members of management owning a lada is valid.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Yusuf Essa on February 16, 2017, 06:35:01 am
Danie, there is no official current chair and vice chair, that is why there are elections on the go.  The new management structure, consisting of the executive positions will be in a position to define who things work going forward, obviously with input from the moderators and members.

The forum has been run by willing individuals who wanted to see a collaborative capability of all our lada knowledge and love for ladas not being lost after the last time the forum was hi jacked.  Time has now come to formalise the structure, again and let club go forward under guidance.

The agreement reached on the nominations thread is as has been discussed here, and is irrelevant anyway, as all the people who have accepted their nominations so far do in fact own a Lada.  The same is true for all the people who have yet to accept their nominations.  Thus your "requirement" of all members of management owning a lada is valid.



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Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Conrad on February 16, 2017, 11:10:42 am
Danie, you accused the current Lada management of making a decision regarding non-Lada owners being moderators without mandate. You have completely ignored the fact that every member has the opportunity to comment on the matter on the thread entitled “Its time”. Since you’re ignoring what was said on that thread I will summarise it for you below:

·         You proposed that no non-Lada owner should be part of the management

·         Paul stated that this should only apply to exec members

·         Peter agreed with Pauls suggestion

·         Spikes disagreed and said he did not see this as a requirement

·         Andre also agreed with Paul that it should only apply to exec members

·         Remco agreed with Spikes that it should not be a requirement

The majority (Paul, Peter and Andre) felt that the owning a Lada rule should only apply to the Chairman and Vice-Chairman positions.  I cannot see how this could have been done any more fairly?

 

You’ve made it very clear that you have no faith in the current management, and do not like the way they do things. You were nominated and thereby given a chance to shape the future management team, yet you declined.  I suspect that it’s easier to sit on the side-lines and criticise than it is to find solutions, and fix the problems.

 

If you feel I’m wrong, you’re welcome to prove it by taking over the organisation of the national get together in Clarens. Show that as a Lada owner you have more commitment than the fly by night hero, uncommitted, wannabe social hangers on, that you refer to ex-Lada owners as.

Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: marius on February 16, 2017, 12:41:23 pm
Well said Conrad and Steve but I'm afraid it is all pretty pointless when someone has no ability to understand anything else but the fluff going on in his head  :-\

This has been going on for years now...same result every time. All too predictable.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Ari bezuidenhout on February 16, 2017, 01:38:24 pm
Well said Conrad and Steve but I'm afraid it is all pretty pointless when someone has no ability to understand anything else but the fluff going on in his head  :-\

This has been going on for years now...same result every time. All too predictable.

LOL

So true Marius
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Yusuf Essa on February 16, 2017, 06:01:56 pm
Well said Conrad and Steve but I'm afraid it is all pretty pointless when someone has no ability to understand anything else but the fluff going on in his head  :-\

This has been going on for years now...same result every time. All too predictable.



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Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: SARemco on February 16, 2017, 06:09:58 pm
This stuff is beter than african politics. Im laughing my ass off. Why so sensetive why so official like remove me immidiatly or i will remove or redraw myself pictures or what ever. Conrad well said people should put their money where their mouth is (not other way unless you want to kiss your own ass). This is a volentary thing we all here for the fun. Other guys that just bought a lada are prob thinking when reading this shit didnt only just bought a buggered up car but also joined a buggeted up full of noncens club. Stop this nonsens and let us enjoy our selfs! Join us on the pretoria get together or the super awesome politic bullcrap free national gathering weekend at clarens in september where laughing and having fun is a must requirement.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: SARemco on February 16, 2017, 06:11:35 pm
Oh shit forgot to accept or decline.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Spikes on February 17, 2017, 09:38:34 am
Oh shit forgot to accept or decline.

You still have time. That portion of the process only closes on 18th.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Wesley on February 17, 2017, 11:24:21 am
Just a little thought, I don't mind non Lada members being part of the moderators. Conrad unfortunately declined, but he for example has knowledge about Lada's and I am certain it's something he will consider owning again. Yes chair and vice should be owners that just seems logical. But as for moderators, as long as they have a knowledge to help let them be. I nominated Conrad because despite not owning a Lada he always attends the events which is more than most Lada owners can say.

That being said, I wish the future management all the luck in the world, you can't please everyone, but do your best when you are in the high chair,

Peace Lada family, yes family cause without each other we are just a bunch of people driving weird cars.


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Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Danie on February 17, 2017, 05:58:29 pm
Well I was expecting this exact kind of response at this forum , so may I ask - can I have an opportunity to speak my mind ?

If not, please don't worry - there are people at this very forum who have open minds, who are NOT interested in forum politics, and are quite anxious to find solutions for well known Lada problems  - without listening to this personal "fluff" on people's minds.

I guess the answer will be NO, you simply know too much - you are causing too much problems, and we rather prefer to believe in fairy tales.

So again, will I have a fair chance to explain myself without facing all this personal fluff of all these years again ?



























Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Andre on February 17, 2017, 06:23:26 pm
Danie, for the benifit of those of us who don't know or haven't been round long enough, please say your piece. I can't promise that no one will react to but at least everyone will get to hear your side as well.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: marius on February 17, 2017, 08:24:21 pm
Please speak your mind and stop acting like a 2 year old.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Conrad on February 17, 2017, 08:30:01 pm
Please have your say.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Spikes on February 18, 2017, 06:45:06 am
Please do, Danie.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Danie on February 18, 2017, 08:54:31 am
Ai tog, there goes old Marius again ! ;D

Okay, my intention was to explain in more detail, but I just realized that whatever I have to say, will never make a difference. So hopefully this will be quite short.

Before I bought my Lada 11 years ago, I did a lot of reading at the original Locsa forum, and within a very short period I was fully aware of quite a number of technical problems which previous owners were complaining about. I soon realized that such a number owners would simply not complain about "nothing" - it simply did not make sense . Despite this alarming indications, I still decided to buy my Lada - simply because I knew I have the technical skills, willpower, as well as experience to sort any possible problem myself. I know some people at this forum will now start jumping up and down because I dared to make such a statement . By now I know for a fact that whatever have to say about previous, as well as current personal technical experience  are NOT going to count at this forum - so I am NOT going to waste my time and energy in this regard. I also need to mention -  during my 11 years of Lada ownership I had opportunity to talk to a few local specialists who have prevous Lada experience. What they told me, was not too worrying . To this day I still believe that the "problems" they told me about, can indeed be overcome.

Just in short, just the reasons why the modifications is not fully completed. I do apologize for revealing this info here, but I do believe it is very relevant.

I have several interests and passions in life.  My passion about Ladas is nothing more than just ONE of the passions in my life. I am also a motorcycle fanatic, and committed to family obligations. Since I bought my Lada 11 years ago, I travelled about 200 000 km on different motorcycles. Almost four years ago, I bought a brand new motorcycle. Unfortunately I do know for a fact that Ladas do have several limits, and between the different passions in my life I do need to space myself financially. - just like all of us at this very forum. Believe me if you will, I am NOT bragging, or trying to impress anyone. I am just saying.
By the way - Andre, as well as Dave Borlage have access to my photos and albums at my Facebook page - they are perfectly capable of confirming my passions which are mentioned here.

Family obligations.
 Due to some misfortune in life, I had an obligation to support my dear mother financially until she passed two years ago. Believe me, there is no way in life that I would ever let my late mother down - by spending money on a Lada !

After I bought my Lada, and while I was living my dream by modifying the Lada, my youngest son was still studying.  I was facing serious financial obligations in this regard. And beleive me, there was no chance in life that a Lada would stand in the way of my son's future !

My oldest son is an American citizen, and since I bought my Lada my wife and myself spent more than R90K on several flight tickets, as well as touring expenses. Yres, that money could obviously  been used  to build the best Lada in the word, but NO - my wife and myself do have family obligations, and there is no chance in life that a Lada will get preference in this regard. After all, my wife is not passionate about Ladas at all.
Again, I am more than convinced that nobody will believe me. Just ask Andre or Dave Borlase who have access to my Facebook page, and they are perfectly capable of seeing photos and albums of our travels to America !

Again, I do apologize for revealing this info here. I was always hoping that the majority of members at this forum would  act like adults, and help looking at possible ways to improve our Ladas. But that clearly will never happen !

To conclude, Ronnie once make a public statement that "people like him (me, Danie) must not be allowed at the forum". I think you are 100% correct Ronnie, people like me should rather improve their Ladas in the quite, and never say a word about it !

Regards.
Have peace,  and enjoy your Lada !

P.S. Again,  I apologize for revealing this info here. To my mind some people at this forum never stopped rubbishing my character in public, and I feel I have to defend myself in public.



























Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: marius on February 18, 2017, 09:57:15 am
With "maybe" one or two exceptions I don't think any of us are in a position to flash money around at will. In that regard we are all in the same boat - trying to put some bread on the table. This was exactly why we bought our Lada. Easy to maintain and cheap to run if you get the basics right. I too have other obligations and hobbies to maintain - like most other people. Our Lada has now been up and running for nearly 16 years with VERY limited funding.

You have been on and off this forum on several occasions - vowing never to return - but we have always welcomed you back with open arms. I have never seen anybody "rubbishing your character" ever on this forum but you have a proven track record for throwing down your tools when things don't go your way. THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT IS STUPID but that is just my opinion.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Danie on February 18, 2017, 10:48:22 am
Well said Conrad and Steve but I'm afraid it is all pretty pointless when someone has no ability to understand anything else but the fluff going on in his head  :-\


Really ?


According your comment (above) somebody at this very forum "has no ability to understand anything else but the fluff going on in his head ".

Do you REALLY think I have any reason to believe l that I have "always been welcomed with open arms  while you keep on passing comments like this ???

Come on Marius, I am NOT stupid ! Please act like an adult, PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE !








Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Sparky on February 18, 2017, 12:49:39 pm
getaroom
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Ari bezuidenhout on February 18, 2017, 07:41:41 pm
You will never reach your destination if you stop to throw stones at every dog that barks  - Winston Churchill.

No point in throwing stones at barking dogs as you say.

Cheers
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Conrad on February 18, 2017, 09:03:18 pm
Hi Danie,

I think all owners can understand a lack of money and time, and quite a few have modified their Lada's (Ari is a good example). What I don't understand is what this has to do with the nominations, or more specifically your complaint about non-Lada owners being moderators, and the way this was handled by the current management?

We seem to have wound up very off topic here?

Conrad
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: kleynhap on February 18, 2017, 09:06:55 pm
Peter, chair, accept
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Yusuf Essa on February 18, 2017, 09:08:46 pm
Peter, chair, accept
Now we getting somewhere on this thread.


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Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Spikes on February 19, 2017, 06:23:27 am
Hi Danie,

I think all owners can understand a lack of money and time, and quite a few have modified their Lada's (Ari is a good example). What I don't understand is what this has to do with the nominations, or more specifically your complaint about non-Lada owners being moderators, and the way this was handled by the current management?

We seem to have wound up very off topic here?

Conrad


Agree. Don't see any correlation here.
Title: Re: Nominations so far
Post by: Ihar on February 19, 2017, 06:59:11 am
Acceptance of Nominations has closed.

Voting threads will soon be set up.